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Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:31 AM

Hello, everyone.

I want to share my tips for Ukko, because I really like assassin classes. Now I’ll try to explain what he can do on the battlefield and what build is my favourite.
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0. Updates
26.02.2012 - Tactics agains other immortals added.
28.02.2012 - new masteries build, more about signature skill, leveling priority, early-game tactic added.

1. Abilities

“Q” ability: Twisted Bolts.
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This one is an extremely hard ability to land, but very nice to kill. When you master it, you can remove creep waves fast, stun enemies or snare them. But when enemy knows your immortal or you have some server lags, it becomes practically useless :) The only remaining way to use it correctly from that point is to kill running enemy (90% of players run STRAIGHT FORWARD, so you know where to place skill – in some meters before them) or enemy, standing in front of you. To stun enemy, you need to land all 3 bolts THROUGH him, and bolts move on parabolic trajectory, so even if you place the final location of bolts far away, they will go through near-standing enemy.

“W” ability: Static Charge.
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Use it, love it :) My first ability to levelup. It gives you a good way to pursue enemy or to escape from enemy, it’s cost is always 85 mana, it’s damage has AoE type to kill creep wave in one shot most of the time, it snares an enemy, and it gives you passive charges to make your auto-attack even more devastating. With my build I can spam it fast and regain all the mana to use it again.

“E” ability: Rising Storm / Tempest Armor.
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Last skill to upgrade. I buy it on level 2 and then upgrade it only when I become level 13. Even 1st level gives me enough speed bonus / armor bonus to deal with enemies, so I prefer to make better attacking skills.

“R” ability: Strike Twice.
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There are so many ways to use it. If you have Vezin near – it is the best variant. Spam the first lighting, then use vortex. After that, all enemies in center of vortex will suffer damage of lighting, because they will be near the hit target. Enemy team pursue you? Ok, use this skill and run. You will deal normal damage to those who will be right behind you, others will try to avoid it (panic mode ON), so if pursuers have low health after your R, you can use W-Q combo on them and even kill them, or just use W to escape from the rest. You are playing against one enemy in your lane? It is not the best use for R, but if he has low HP, you can pursue him with lighting and W to finish his life :) With good cooldown it can be even the best use of ult.

“D” ability: Lightning Flow.
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Further test revealed it's true potential. No one can escape from it. Absolutely no one. They can stun you, vortex you, snare you - it's not a problem - you're god of pursuing for it's duration. Especially in fights near your base at late game. If your team managed to live and 1-3 remaining enemies run to their base - it's death for them. With late game cooldown I just spam my abilities and make total annihilation killing running enemies one-by-one. I punish one of them, use W+Q, kill him, then go to another. Only tanks with full HP can manage to escape to their base. Then I just wait for our tanks or tank myself enemy turrets with remaining of the team. Profit!

Leveling priority for me: W-E-W-Q-W-R-W-Q-W-Q-R-Q-Q-E-(R+D)-E-E-E. (just don't spend your point at level 15 and then take R+D skills at 16lvl).

2. Items

My standart build for almost all the games is:
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Amulet of Duality
Wizardbane
Blade of Randarz
Gleaming Wand
Serrated Edge


Why this build? Because I like attack speed, I’m trying to make benefit from every point of Ukkonen. With that build + artifacts + masteries + 2 pots I have 290 damage, 2.513 APS, 5.89 mana regen, 39.5% cooldown reduction, 16% crit, 28% life steal, 9% spirit vamp, 12.85/45% magic resistance penetration, 16 armor, 16 magic resistance. After you’ll apply defence mode, you’ll have less APS (2.469), -20 damage, and +6 armor +6 magic resistance to handle enemies.
It is quite enough for assassin style – to move into enemy line fast by using W, then use Q on desired enemy, make 3-4 attacks while he is stunned and can’t overleech and overcrit you, then run away with already usable again W.
Sometimes I can switch items to make more defence (there are many ways to switch current items), so it is not the one and the only build, but I like it most of all because of it’s all-round use.
Upgrading has the most priority in randarz and wand, after that – duality. Usually I start game with duality or shoes. Last upgraded item is always wizardbane – you’ll get much more benefit from non-flat magic resistance penetration.

If enemy has less than 10 magic resistance, you’ll damage them with full power.
Less than 20 – 55% of maximum of 7 resistance gives resulting 4 resistance with funny mitigration.
Less than 40 – 55% of 27 – over 14 resistance. Which is not very good, too.
Yes, he needs some more % of penetration, but ATM devs don’t want to make good item for mage carry like quick blade, so I’ve tried to maximize overall potential.

3. Masteries

Offense tree: 23
0 0 1 3 0
2 0 0 0 2 1
2 4 3 3 2

Defense tree: None

Champion tree: 27
2 2 4 0 0
2 2 4 4 2 1
2 0 0 0 2 0

4. Artifacts:

2 gilded bone talismans (+2 armor), 3 gilded ivory talismans (+3 magic resistance)
5 fox totems (+3.75 magic resistance penetration)
3 grand seals of clarity (+6% cooldown reduction)
2 primal air symbols (+4.5% cooldown reduction, +4.5% attack speed)
1 relic of Ta’amuun (+30 mana, +3% cooldown reduction, +5% spirit vamp)
So, I start with 6.5 armor, 6 magic resistance, 9% spirit vamp, 8% life leech, 62 damage, 0.806 APS, 19.5% cooldown reduction, 6.85/15% magic resistance penetration. It is enough to handle enemies, because you can CC very well to levelup and then kill an enemy.

5. Strategy against other immortals:

Here I'll try to explain how to play against others. I like Sienna's score idea, so my score is from 1 (easy target) to 5 (deadly target). Let's start:

Aishlynn (3) : with my build in 1v1 battles against full-art 50lvl Aishlynns with over 20 mres at start I realized that it's kinda be boring. Very boring. If you're playing Ukko for fun, better to switch for dual lane - you can't kill normal Aishlynn. She just heals herself easily with good cooldown and perfect mana regen. The only thing that I might add here - if you will be at center lane against only her, you will break 2 turrets easily. Your Q and W can destroy creep waves, her healing thing - can't. She can use shield on turret - no prob: just 2 attacks and shield is broken. With the lack of DPS and attacking skills except her light she will be orced to move deeper and deeper into her lane. And you will have some useful leech to retain your lost health.

Balak (1) : easy. Very very easy. Even with his crits you can snare and stun him, then finish. All the game. With your APS and cooldowns he can't kill you almost all the game if not fed. If he's running after your Q, then start with W, and even if he'll use grenade, just try to stun him by Q. Your stun is better =P

Ichorr (2) : until he gets his heal in good level, he's not a problem. Your W has AoE so you can still kill him in the middle of his grove. If he plays with E, in attacking style, then press S, wait until it goes off, and finish him with chain of your Q + W.

Kavashiir (2) : this guy can heal himself and cleanse snares. And WHAT? He has the weakest DPS in a game and a very poor attacking skill until he hits at least level 5. Alone - he's not a problem. In party with carry - problem, he can easily save opponent, snare you and help him kill you while your W is on cooldown.

Kyrie (5) : Deadly person. Your Q and her W are quite similar by difficulty to land. But surikens are more powerful and move straightly. Your advantage is W, but she's still best anti-carry, and you as semi-carry are good target. I'm now thinking on making Q in champ tree for all 4 points and remove defence tree life boost - because then you'll have over 6 second cooldown, so your spamming will be better than her. Your skills are best help against her. But try to play in party with Tat or Vezin against her)

Lazarus (5) : DEATH ITSELF. Well trained Lazarus with Lytle Locket can defeat ANYONE in solo lane. There are 2 person who can just try to stay against him in lane - Aishlynn and Ichorr. No one else. He will just outleech you easily.

Netheurgist (1) : Never saw a problem with him. He uses W? Use your W to run out (if he moves) or Q to stun him (if he stands in one place). His skills can kill creep waves, but yours do it even faster. And you can run from any of his skills. If he teleports to you, just attack him - maybe he'll use W after you spend Q and W. Then do what I said above. He can't be so powerful at start - he needs defensive items to become a match for you.

Nysuss (1) : The same as Balak, but can use shield to run away. Nothing more to say.

Psychozen (2) : Support Psycho (with E) will never play in solo lane, or he's not.. emm.. "right" I guess. Troll Psycho can combo you and heal himself, so it needs a time to kill him, but pushing is easy against single target person. And his clones can be killed by your W. But I've never played against him in solo lanes because of lack of this class in game, so.. Can't say anymore.

Pycon (4) : this leads to some question: what build/arts he uses? If tanky build, then he can't kill you, and you can't kill him EASILY, so he can just run. If attack build, he will destroy you. His skills look like bugged - I can't move for 2-3 seconds after his full combo. Don't know why, but for me it's like death)) Beware of his ult-ganks.

Scorpix (4) : you can kill his minions by W, but his regen and snares..... So, better to play in a team. Just snare him first and keep snared by all skills. He won't escape easily.

Talia (1) : If you'll miss with stun, she can kill you with her crits and luck. If not - she will be dead. And W+R+Q+W combo kills her all the match. Use W to avoid shredder)) After effect warns off she will have problems))

Tatiana (3) : Good Tat can catch you while you are in a middle of your W. But if stasis is lost, even her cleanse can't save her. But beware of her ult. You can't cancel it when you are near her. I'm just playing as a spammer against her and levelup Q first, then W. This gives advantage.

Trovoc (3) : Fire? Use stun. Silence? Run away. He's tanky guy and can avoid you by many trolling skills, and if you are pushed by his ult, you can't land W correctly to escape. So, a tie, I guess))

Tzai (5) : Anti-carry with fast landing ult and short cooldowns and anti-stun. He can kill you, beware))

Ukkonen (?) : secret))

Vezin (3) : Until he has tons of HP and MP, he's not a real problem. But if he's an expert of arena using, he and his team will kill you like any other immortal (except Talia or Lazarus because of teleport and ult.. There are several good Vezins in RoI who can have advantage on you even in 1 on 1, but I still want to save this information because I'm leveling Vezin ATM))

KAOS (1) : just buy truevision for 600 gold. And no problem. ATM he is still not so powerful guy. Too fragile. But even if you don't want to buy truevision, just use W IMMEDIATELY after he uses Q - this will snare him and he can't run away so easily. If he ganks and stuns you for 0.75 seconds, he'll probably try to use W after it. It's channeling time is 1 second, so you'll have 0.25 seconds to use Q or W to stun/avoid damage.

6. Early game:

When I compared Ukko and Talia, I understood that Ukko can make beautiful early game and jungle. So, let's start:
1) Buy willpower potion, 3 rejuvenation potions, then drink willpower potion and buy regeneration potion on it's place.
2) Go to 2 center creeps near turret on the right part of your half. You will have W skill, so use it on both creeps, drink elixir, then you'll have more than 100 damage on first of 2 creeps. Finish him, then the second. Use W again if needed. Then 2 ways:
2') Continue by killing 2 creeps on the right place near side turret, then 3 creeps and last 2 creeps. (After W take E once - it provides +8 damage). Then Level W and Q. After you kill all creeps, you'll become level 4. Gank one of the enemies on nearest lane and continue jungling. Your ganks at level 4 are MUCH more powerful than Talia's because you can spam skills and debuff enemies
2'') Go to your team, kill creeps on left side and then head to enemy part of map, jungle there.

Both variants are really good - Talia at early levels can't jungle that perfect. She relies on her crits only - you on your skills. Pots and spirit vamp will help you a lot.

7. Tips:

- I like to use defence mode in battles for more survivability, and I switch mode to attack only when I pursue enemy, must come somewhere ASAP or need to destroy turret a bit faster.
- If you have good mathematics base and you and enemy are near enemy's turret, you can look at enemy's health before using your R, if it is low enough, then just mark him and go away, he will die, and you won't suffer tons of damage from turret.
- With 9% of spirit vamp you don't need mana boosts. Your W skill cost is always 85 mana, with 9% vamp, good mana regen and purple potion you will gain mana very fast to stay in lane.
- When you attack carry 1v1, try to stun him - you'll have time to make 3+ attacks and refresh a bit your cooldown for W.
- W skill is perfect. Waith for creeps to spread, then use it. I t can kill 4-6 creeps if the moment is right. And try not to waste charges on creep if you plan to kill an enemy staying in front of you. And 33.5% snare at 5th level for 2.5 seconds is very good to place Q better.
- If you have 1 enemy in front of you and the other behind him, you can snare-stun both - just aim at the distant one

This post has been edited by dron13: 20 March 2012 - 09:16 AM

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 06:32 AM

After reading this long detailed guide. I think it's time I play Ukkonen :)

Thanks you for taking the time to do this.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:47 AM

Yup i would build dps like this as well also to add in the tips start fighting carry start out in def mode jsut before you jump him Switch E to offence so the first 3 auto attacks you will have +40 dammage on your attack. then switch back to defence for double amour and so on the 20 dammage helps alot if you crit
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 08:14 AM

And if anyone says that 16% of crit chance is not good for a carry, then I can explain: if you build more crit, you'll lose all-round style, and lose damage/cooldown/att speed. Artifacts with crit will lead you to bad cooldown, bad attack speed, no spirit vamp and bad mrp. Of course, someone can change duality for crit blade, but he will become too defenceless :) I think of Ukko as semi-carry + semi-assassin, which means stable survivability, fast attacks, fast spam of abilities and normal damage and speed :) With crits he will be good, too, but it's all in the hands of customization :)

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 08:29 AM

yeah you take the blade mostly for the +40dammage if you ask me. i could see some 1 switch out the duelity for the stone how ever nice hp/mana boost and less down time seeing dps unkonnen do tend to die alot when they get focused
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:19 AM

For my ukkonen playstyle E ability is the first upgrade cuz i going defensive and healthy at first items and i upgrading the E ability (always stand on rising storm just switching in some cases) it is making you a great attacker inside the whole 25 first minutes
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:36 AM

View PostSupremeMaster, on 06 February 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

For my ukkonen playstyle E ability is the first upgrade cuz i going defensive and healthy at first items and i upgrading the E ability (always stand on rising storm just switching in some cases) it is making you a great attacker inside the whole 25 first minutes


It's like suggestions about Sienna's Kyrie guide and same Brocilles guide - first one tries to rely on maximum output while second one makes reliable immortal who can win even in long battles. My skill upgrading is more like 1st type - to unleash full power and run away as assassin. I've tried defense builds and even over-5k-HP build, they are good for long fights as well as your skill build, but it's worth it only if you play more defensive. I like to kill whole creep waves asap to leave enemy stay snared in a middle of my creeps, and to have leveled damage skills to make easier kills :)
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:42 AM

Yeah yeah all imortals has 2 or more playstyles to play with your guide looks like a guerrilla warfare attacker ukkonen :D
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:07 AM

When im on unkonnen and i start on the bottem of the map and i get the champion buff i always build Q and W and R when i get the option to lvl it i never touch E untill much later.

Since im building defencely E doesnt matter much for me untill much later, if i get the champion buff you can spam your skills so much you can push any 1 from lane because there out off mana and with champion buff your close to 6 a sec.

Reason i like building defencivly atm is i can jump in first or just tank the tower if there is a aoeer that can take out creeps in 1 go switching E around as much as you can with close 2 5k hp buffed you can take plenty of hits before your forced to retreat even more if you get shields. only problem atm is that im giving up cooldown boots and big magic pen for those real big amour stackers. all i might changes out the 1,5 amour arti's for cooldown when i get to lvl 50 but for now im not even lvl41 yet not much time to play atm maby 1-2 games a day.

other nice thing of getting like 2k hp @ around lvl 7-8 depending on wich items you get you can basicly attack people near or passed towers with out big risk of dying.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:23 AM

View PostValkeries, on 06 February 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

When im on unkonnen and i start on the bottem of the map and i get the champion buff i always build Q and W and R when i get the option to lvl it i never touch E untill much later.

Since im building defencely E doesnt matter much for me untill much later, if i get the champion buff you can spam your skills so much you can push any 1 from lane because there out off mana and with champion buff your close to 6 a sec.

Reason i like building defencivly atm is i can jump in first or just tank the tower if there is a aoeer that can take out creeps in 1 go switching E around as much as you can with close 2 5k hp buffed you can take plenty of hits before your forced to retreat even more if you get shields. only problem atm is that im giving up cooldown boots and big magic pen for those real big amour stackers. all i might changes out the 1,5 amour arti's for cooldown when i get to lvl 50 but for now im not even lvl41 yet not much time to play atm maby 1-2 games a day.

other nice thing of getting like 2k hp @ around lvl 7-8 depending on wich items you get you can basicly attack people near or passed towers with out big risk of dying.


It's just my opinion, but for that role Scorpix is much better =) He has better sig, skills and defence, much better HP regen and HP, and his passive gives him over 180-200 damage. So he can do this job much better than Ukko :)
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:39 AM

Yup scorpix is better but most of the pub games i played 9 out of 10 every 1 plays dps
them building Dps im just building tank.

That said every immortal is beter then unkonnen it beeing dps,support or tank so you can really build him the way you feel like playing that game :).

i just love jumping into 5 immortals unlease my ulti, might not do much dammage later on, but most of the time i can just jump on the carry kill him and get out alive.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:41 AM

DPS scorpix?) Wow :) That's why I love my in-game friends - they play tanks as tanks =D
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:51 AM

View Postdron13, on 06 February 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

DPS scorpix?) Wow :) That's why I love my in-game friends - they play tanks as tanks =D


Well dps scorpix can work below lvl 21 :D. atm i only play pub so i dont have a massive high rating.
geuss i havent gotten to fight any people that know what there diong but a hand full. most of the time you just get wispers or ingame chat unkonnen is OP and is giong to be nerfed, stop playing the just overbuffed class ect ect chat.

im sure to try assasin again when i get to lvl 50 when i get enough blue coins to switch around arti's sometimes i wish they were account wide :)
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:17 AM

добавил самое основное сюда https://www.mczone.ru...tions/num/524/1
остальное к сожалению перевести не могу, был бы благодарен если вы напишите гайд на русском языке на нашем сайте
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 03:57 AM

View Postbabajkov, on 26 February 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

добавил самое основное сюда https://www.mczone.ru...tions/num/524/1
остальное к сожалению перевести не могу, был бы благодарен если вы напишите гайд на русском языке на нашем сайте


Собственно, не понял, к чему этот сайт вообще :)
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:02 AM

Updated - added some strategies :)
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:50 AM

Thank you!!!
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:33 AM

не все понимают по английски, а я там собирал всю инфу и почти все переводил сам. тк познания англ не велики, мне сложно перевести всю твою статью...
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 05:02 AM

Updated more - new masteries build, more about signature skill, leveling priority, early-game tactic added.
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:13 AM

Added this guide to our wiki. Hope this will be useful :)
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